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		<title>Comment on Hungary&#8217;s Green Ombudsman puts environmental futures at the heart of decision-making by Kaihsu Tai</title>
		<link>http://www.fdsd.org/2010/02/hungarys_green_ombudsman/comment-page-1/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaihsu Tai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took some notes from the event with Dr&#160;Fülöp: http://www.pieandcoffee.org/2010/02/26/sandor-fulop/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took some notes from the event with Dr&nbsp;Fülöp: <a href="http://www.pieandcoffee.org/2010/02/26/sandor-fulop/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pieandcoffee.org/2010/02/26/sandor-fulop/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Eco-town proposals shows cracks between central government and local positions on sustainable development by Donnie</title>
		<link>http://www.fdsd.org/2009/08/eco-town-proposals-shows-cracks-between-central-government-and-local-positions-on-sustainable-development/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Donnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 03:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. You raise some interesting points. More power to local council can only be a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. You raise some interesting points. More power to local council can only be a good thing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The lure of benign dictatorship by Halina Ward</title>
		<link>http://www.fdsd.org/2010/02/the-lure-of-benign-dictatorship/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Halina Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Erich

*Really* &#039;opposing democracy&#039; or pointing out some of the problems with some forms of democracy?

Halina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Erich</p>
<p>*Really* &#8216;opposing democracy&#8217; or pointing out some of the problems with some forms of democracy?</p>
<p>Halina</p>
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		<title>Comment on The lure of benign dictatorship by Erich Kofmel</title>
		<link>http://www.fdsd.org/2010/02/the-lure-of-benign-dictatorship/comment-page-1/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Kofmel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, whole books have been written by environmentalists opposing democracy. See my recent blog post here (which was itself based on an [online] article in the German magazine &quot;Der Spiegel&quot;):

www.anti-democracy.com/2010/01/books-climate-scientists-against.html

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, whole books have been written by environmentalists opposing democracy. See my recent blog post here (which was itself based on an [online] article in the German magazine &#8220;Der Spiegel&#8221;):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.anti-democracy.com/2010/01/books-climate-scientists-against.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.anti-democracy.com/2010/01/books-climate-scientists-against.html</a></p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>Comment on Corporate responsibility, democracy and climate change by Halina</title>
		<link>http://www.fdsd.org/2010/01/csr-democracy-and-climate/comment-page-1/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Halina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks very much Perrine! 

I agree with you - insofar as I don&#039;t think that changing electoral cycles is the main solution (electing our representatives for 30 years wouldn&#039;t necessarily enhance the chances of achieving sustainable develompent!) 

And agreed too on your comments about the run-up to COP15.

I do think, though, that there might be some other &#039;tricks&#039; that could be considered (if you&#039;ll allow me to use that word that became so controversial in the climategate controversy), and which might equip parliaments collectively to think more long-term. One is, for example, the Green Ombudsman approach - as with Hungary&#039;s Parliamentary Commissioner for Future Generations.

Ultimately, of course, in that mix between &#039;leadership&#039; and &#039;change from below&#039;, we do need ordinary people to play a much more significant role in demanding change. For there is a certain amount of buck-passing inherent in asking &#039;visionary leaders&#039; to bear the bulk of the strain in any democratic process to deliver the kind of radical change that is needed.

Thanks again for your thoughtful comment Perrine.

Best.

Halina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much Perrine! </p>
<p>I agree with you &#8211; insofar as I don&#8217;t think that changing electoral cycles is the main solution (electing our representatives for 30 years wouldn&#8217;t necessarily enhance the chances of achieving sustainable develompent!) </p>
<p>And agreed too on your comments about the run-up to COP15.</p>
<p>I do think, though, that there might be some other &#8216;tricks&#8217; that could be considered (if you&#8217;ll allow me to use that word that became so controversial in the climategate controversy), and which might equip parliaments collectively to think more long-term. One is, for example, the Green Ombudsman approach &#8211; as with Hungary&#8217;s Parliamentary Commissioner for Future Generations.</p>
<p>Ultimately, of course, in that mix between &#8216;leadership&#8217; and &#8216;change from below&#8217;, we do need ordinary people to play a much more significant role in demanding change. For there is a certain amount of buck-passing inherent in asking &#8216;visionary leaders&#8217; to bear the bulk of the strain in any democratic process to deliver the kind of radical change that is needed.</p>
<p>Thanks again for your thoughtful comment Perrine.</p>
<p>Best.</p>
<p>Halina</p>
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		<title>Comment on Corporate responsibility, democracy and climate change by PerrineB</title>
		<link>http://www.fdsd.org/2010/01/csr-democracy-and-climate/comment-page-1/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>PerrineB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 02:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Halina,

This is a very interesting post, and you made an excellent point by highlighting to the role governments have to play in addressing sustainability/CSR issues over the long-term such as climate change. The outcome of the COP15 talks shows obviously their failure in doing so.
I believe that the notion of “business/electoral cycle” or “short-term trap” is at the core of this problem. 
In the corporate world, there is a great emphasis over short-term performance given the financial markets focus on quarterly results and profits. This is a key challenge for sustainability as little credit is given to longer-term value creation strategies, particularly those that may depress today&#039;s profits.
Same goes for the political sphere. The electoral cycle itself (a politician has 2 to 5 years at best to implement his programme before having to run for re-election) leads policymakers to have a short-term horizon, and sacrifice policies that have long-term payback on the alter of more immediate ones, that can directly have a positive impact on their constituents… i.e. policies that can have a direct impact on the public polls themselves.  This is even more stringent today with the recession and the necessity for governments to keep jobs and sustain economic activity at all costs.  
Can we change the political system and its electoral cycle? I doubt. But we can empower citizens to hold their representatives accountable, over both short-term and long-term goals. This starts with greater awareness and education on issues such as climate change. But most of all, it starts by telling people/citizens, what’s in it for them and their kids. And I guess this is what we failed to do leading up to COP15… . What do you think?

Thanks again for the post, 
Cheers,
Perrine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Halina,</p>
<p>This is a very interesting post, and you made an excellent point by highlighting to the role governments have to play in addressing sustainability/CSR issues over the long-term such as climate change. The outcome of the COP15 talks shows obviously their failure in doing so.<br />
I believe that the notion of “business/electoral cycle” or “short-term trap” is at the core of this problem.<br />
In the corporate world, there is a great emphasis over short-term performance given the financial markets focus on quarterly results and profits. This is a key challenge for sustainability as little credit is given to longer-term value creation strategies, particularly those that may depress today&#8217;s profits.<br />
Same goes for the political sphere. The electoral cycle itself (a politician has 2 to 5 years at best to implement his programme before having to run for re-election) leads policymakers to have a short-term horizon, and sacrifice policies that have long-term payback on the alter of more immediate ones, that can directly have a positive impact on their constituents… i.e. policies that can have a direct impact on the public polls themselves.  This is even more stringent today with the recession and the necessity for governments to keep jobs and sustain economic activity at all costs.<br />
Can we change the political system and its electoral cycle? I doubt. But we can empower citizens to hold their representatives accountable, over both short-term and long-term goals. This starts with greater awareness and education on issues such as climate change. But most of all, it starts by telling people/citizens, what’s in it for them and their kids. And I guess this is what we failed to do leading up to COP15… . What do you think?</p>
<p>Thanks again for the post,<br />
Cheers,<br />
Perrine.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Democracy as a killer app by John Elkington</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Elkington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree on both points, dear WeAreToast, but enjoyed the provocation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree on both points, dear WeAreToast, but enjoyed the provocation!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Democracy as a killer app by wearetoast</title>
		<link>http://www.fdsd.org/2009/12/democracy-as-a-killer-app/comment-page-1/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>wearetoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ferguson may well be right, with his talk of the end of the Western Ascendancy.  Historians always like to write about hinges in history, and how we are (whenever) living through one.  &quot;The West&quot; has been written off before of course (Spengler, anyone), and like capitalism itself, proved remarkably resilient.  Ferguson&#039;s space was limited, but it would have been nice if he&#039;d given a shout out to a) the serious problems China faces (it could all go horribly wrong, despite things like the high-speed trains mentioned elsewhere in today&#039;s FT)  and b) the conundrum/dilemma/Achilles Heel of sorting out ways of meeting the needs of 9 billion people without wiping out every other species and turning the planet into Venus.  He kind of elides that, which for a Big Thinker is a little embarrassing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ferguson may well be right, with his talk of the end of the Western Ascendancy.  Historians always like to write about hinges in history, and how we are (whenever) living through one.  &#8220;The West&#8221; has been written off before of course (Spengler, anyone), and like capitalism itself, proved remarkably resilient.  Ferguson&#8217;s space was limited, but it would have been nice if he&#8217;d given a shout out to a) the serious problems China faces (it could all go horribly wrong, despite things like the high-speed trains mentioned elsewhere in today&#8217;s FT)  and b) the conundrum/dilemma/Achilles Heel of sorting out ways of meeting the needs of 9 billion people without wiping out every other species and turning the planet into Venus.  He kind of elides that, which for a Big Thinker is a little embarrassing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The lessons of climategate by Paul Grice</title>
		<link>http://www.fdsd.org/2009/12/lessons_of_climategate/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Grice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 04:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The climate is doing exactly what it has always done - change. the bunkem of pseudo-science employed by the PTB and the MSM leads me to one question: What &#039;Weapons of Mass Destruction&#039;? Al Qaeda, who? where? how? Pandemic? Where? When? And why was the vaccine patented before the &#039;virus&#039; was discovered? FRAUD, FRAUD, FRAUD...that&#039;s why, when and how! Oh, more Ice now than in 2004, more Polar bears now than in 2004. BULLSHIT!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The climate is doing exactly what it has always done &#8211; change. the bunkem of pseudo-science employed by the PTB and the MSM leads me to one question: What &#8216;Weapons of Mass Destruction&#8217;? Al Qaeda, who? where? how? Pandemic? Where? When? And why was the vaccine patented before the &#8216;virus&#8217; was discovered? FRAUD, FRAUD, FRAUD&#8230;that&#8217;s why, when and how! Oh, more Ice now than in 2004, more Polar bears now than in 2004. BULLSHIT!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The lessons of climategate by gofer</title>
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		<dc:creator>gofer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are several fatal flaws in the e-mails, such as Briffia&#039;s admission that the temps a 1000 yrs. ago were probably as warm as today. How about the admission that they were &quot;nowhere near balancing the energy budget&quot; and &quot;cannot explain the present cooling trend.&quot;

Adding actual temps to proxy temps as in &quot;hide the decline.&quot; The entire focus was to make sure that a warming trend was shown. Considering the Pachauri of the IPCC, along with Gore and a bunch of others, are up to their necks in &quot;green&quot; investments and seems to be on the board of every environmental venture in the world, the whole thing stinks.

If the e-mails were courtroom evidence, the defendant would get the &quot;chair.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are several fatal flaws in the e-mails, such as Briffia&#8217;s admission that the temps a 1000 yrs. ago were probably as warm as today. How about the admission that they were &#8220;nowhere near balancing the energy budget&#8221; and &#8220;cannot explain the present cooling trend.&#8221;</p>
<p>Adding actual temps to proxy temps as in &#8220;hide the decline.&#8221; The entire focus was to make sure that a warming trend was shown. Considering the Pachauri of the IPCC, along with Gore and a bunch of others, are up to their necks in &#8220;green&#8221; investments and seems to be on the board of every environmental venture in the world, the whole thing stinks.</p>
<p>If the e-mails were courtroom evidence, the defendant would get the &#8220;chair.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on UN Democracy Fund announces new call for proposals from civil society by Inacio Queiroz</title>
		<link>http://www.fdsd.org/2009/11/un-democracy-fund-announces-new-call-for-proposals-from-civil-society/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Inacio Queiroz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations for the chosen thematic categories that are really important nowadays.

Best regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations for the chosen thematic categories that are really important nowadays.</p>
<p>Best regards.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ecologically viable civilisation now hinges on the workings of the US Constitution by Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.fdsd.org/2009/11/ecologically-viable-civilisation-now-hinges-on-the-workings-of-the-us-constitution/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The USA was designed by proponents of ’small government’, determined to avoid over-mighty executive agency and to put in place checks and balances to prevent emergence of any authoritarian power. This system could well be dysfunctional in dealing with challenges on the scale of climate change and low-carbon transition.&quot;

In case you didn&#039;t notice the contradiction you created in that paragraph, let me point it out to you:

Treaties are a form of authoritarianism.  Therefore, the Constitution will rightfully protect Americans from foreign-made restrictions on our freedoms. 

If we assume that the treaty would set mandates and quotas and other arbitrary requirements that are binding, why in the world would a free nation sign that agreement?  Freedom depends on individual choice: you cannot, in good conscience, force free people to submit to your will, no matter how well-intentioned it is.  End of story.  Keep your undemocratic, illegal treaties and I&#039;ll keep my freedom, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The USA was designed by proponents of ’small government’, determined to avoid over-mighty executive agency and to put in place checks and balances to prevent emergence of any authoritarian power. This system could well be dysfunctional in dealing with challenges on the scale of climate change and low-carbon transition.&#8221;</p>
<p>In case you didn&#8217;t notice the contradiction you created in that paragraph, let me point it out to you:</p>
<p>Treaties are a form of authoritarianism.  Therefore, the Constitution will rightfully protect Americans from foreign-made restrictions on our freedoms. </p>
<p>If we assume that the treaty would set mandates and quotas and other arbitrary requirements that are binding, why in the world would a free nation sign that agreement?  Freedom depends on individual choice: you cannot, in good conscience, force free people to submit to your will, no matter how well-intentioned it is.  End of story.  Keep your undemocratic, illegal treaties and I&#8217;ll keep my freedom, thank you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Press Release on Democracy and Climate Change by Alfredo Jimenez</title>
		<link>http://www.fdsd.org/2009/09/press-release-on-democracy-and-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfredo Jimenez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They know the difference in costs: 
  For polycarbonate, between the method by direct carbonylation of the methanol and the traditional method using phosgene. If they have such information please get me they could do, I&#039;m trying to cooperate in solving the greenhouse problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They know the difference in costs:<br />
  For polycarbonate, between the method by direct carbonylation of the methanol and the traditional method using phosgene. If they have such information please get me they could do, I&#8217;m trying to cooperate in solving the greenhouse problem.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How can democratisation efforts work better for sustainable development? by anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this blog. I found this article is very important especially in the case of Iraq. I think the sustainable development is very far away about democracy in Iraq because the neglect by government and the lack of experience. That&#039;s lead to a lot of problem after the occupation by USA. my question: how the government go to sustainable development while more than 300 sciences killed by the militia. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this blog. I found this article is very important especially in the case of Iraq. I think the sustainable development is very far away about democracy in Iraq because the neglect by government and the lack of experience. That&#8217;s lead to a lot of problem after the occupation by USA. my question: how the government go to sustainable development while more than 300 sciences killed by the militia. Thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on Climate Camp’s direct democracy for direct action: not far enough by We are toast</title>
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		<dc:creator>We are toast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Climate Camp had four years to become an organisation that was able to encourage and support non-violent direct action up and down the UK, against point sources of carbon. For various reasons- some insurmountable but never acknowledged/tackled, others shitty and easily overcome if there was some emotional and theoretical literacy knocking about- that never happened.  The swoop &quot;vote&quot; was a desperate and desperately embarrassing gimmick in place of anything approaching a network of local autonomous actions by autonomous people with knowledge and ability to take local actions. It&#039;s an excuse for yet another national jolly, a lek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lek) and a dry run for the tedium of the Copenhagen riots.  Yawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Climate Camp had four years to become an organisation that was able to encourage and support non-violent direct action up and down the UK, against point sources of carbon. For various reasons- some insurmountable but never acknowledged/tackled, others shitty and easily overcome if there was some emotional and theoretical literacy knocking about- that never happened.  The swoop &#8220;vote&#8221; was a desperate and desperately embarrassing gimmick in place of anything approaching a network of local autonomous actions by autonomous people with knowledge and ability to take local actions. It&#8217;s an excuse for yet another national jolly, a lek (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lek" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lek</a>) and a dry run for the tedium of the Copenhagen riots.  Yawn.</p>
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